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Pumba - 2015-01-01, 18:07
Temat postu: Zlatoust
Dear friends,
My name is Denis and my hobby is vintage watches.
I would kindly ask for your help: I have wrist watch Zlatoust made in 1st quartal of 1948, 15 jewels, mechanism Ceka 6 . I have. Unfortunatelly, it has broken balanced axes and spiral is destroyed as well. Does anyone have neccessary parts. I have photos but I donn't know how to send you them.

ALAMO - 2015-01-01, 18:17

Pumba, host them externally and put here with [URL/...] tags.
It's a rare bird in Poland, but folks have some of them - maybe they can help pifko

Chłopaki, kolega z Bośni i Hercegowiny ma CzK-6 z walniętym kompletem balansowym. Myślę że chodzi o włos i oś ;-)

Pumba - 2015-01-01, 19:08
Temat postu: Zlatoust
https://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/70x70q90/c/540/0PJ3qR.jpg

I hope so you can see photo, evry help is welcome: pifko

ALAMO - 2015-01-01, 19:14

Does not work :-P
Pumba - 2015-01-01, 19:20
Temat postu: Zlatoust
ALAMO you are coll, thanks a lot for your help, I try again upload photo:D

[ Dodano: 2015-01-01, 19:24 ]
K43 K 43

ALAMO - 2015-01-01, 19:28

Second link works, first - not.
Try to upload them using Imageshack, then copy [URL/...] links and past them here, this will show us the photos. I hope ;-)

Tomek - 2015-01-01, 19:34


Pumba - 2015-01-01, 19:38
Temat postu: Zlatoust
Ceka 6

Dear friends I hope so you can see photo.
I try to fix my Zlatoust but in my country I can't find missing parts.
Balance stuff is broken, hair is completely destroyed and axes is broken too.
My watchmaker cleaned and check other parts of mechanism and evriting is O.K with it.
I really want to repair my Zlatoust and evry help is wery welcome.
Best regards and Happy New Year pifko

Spam - 2015-01-01, 20:16

...jest dawca... w znośnej cenie... składak ale może uda się z tego coś ulepić... majtnik niby cały
http://aukro.ua/chasy-kar...4927908405.html
...i kolega nie ma złotousta ale czystopola...

...jest i lepszy ale droższy http://aukro.ua/chasy-kir...4906895298.html

...generalnie kolega to by lepiej wyszedł jakby cały mechanizm wymienił bo ma pokombinowane łozysko koła zmianowego i nie wiadomo co jeszcze... a tu http://aukro.ua/chasy-kir...4918945625.html

pomocna dłoń w tłumaczeniu bo mnie nie chce się walczyć z googletranslatorem :oops:
pzdr

ALAMO - 2015-01-01, 20:22

Spam linked you few auctions on ukrainian bidding portal.
His point is, best for you would be replacing the whole movement, because yours is not legitimate Tchistopol piece. Hear the voice, Pubma :-)

Pumba - 2015-01-01, 21:18

ALAMO and Spam thanks a lot, pifko
Maybe it is the best option - to change complete calibar, if I don't find the mising parts.
Maybe someone knows if it is possible to replace my mechanisam with the one which is made some years after? Like this zlatoust
Does it the dial fit in that case?

Spam - 2015-01-02, 09:14

...nie jestem pewien czy mechanizm ze Złotousta będzie pasował do tej koperty... raczej tak... na 99%... ale nigdy takiej koperty nie miałem... tarcza będzie pasować do wszystkich mechanizmów niezależnie od okresu i fabryki...
...taki mały tutorial
http://www.czwarty-wymiar...t=14186&start=0

http://www.czwarty-wymiar...der=asc&start=0

http://www.czwarty-wymiar...der=asc&start=0

Pumba - 2015-01-02, 14:59
Temat postu: Zlatoust
SPAM you are Legend:D
I'm fascinated with your art and knowledge you have :D
I'm very sorry because I don't know your language because translater is not so good.
Here you are more photos of my watche:P1
P2
P3 P4
P5
P6
P7
P8
P9
P10

Spam - 2015-01-02, 19:41

...movement is original... case too... movement is Chistopolsky Watch Factory... dial too... dial signed Чистопольский Часовой Завод = Chistopolsky Watch Factory... your watch is not Zlatoust... dial Zlatoust is signed Златоустовский Часовой Завод = Zlaoust Watch Factory...
... crown is not original but it is not important... hands is ok...


...differences and similarities...

http://watch-wiki.org/index.php?title=TYP_1

http://watch-wiki.org/ind...rkfamilie_Typ_1

logo Zlatoust Watch Factory


Chistopolsky Watch Factory



...Fazi mnie zniszczy i publicznie pognębi za te wypociny :))

kwater - 2015-01-02, 21:20

EEE, chyba legendzie wybaczy ;)
pmwas - 2015-01-02, 21:54

Well, just to summarize...
All you need is to get a 'Chistopolski' movement with good parts you need and replace just the parts, leaving the original movement in your watch. Also, a 2ChZ movement from 1940-41 should do as well - it's exactly the same. This should not be an extremely difficult task, sadly - I don't have one at hand :)

Good luck with the search :)

EDIT:

http://molotok.ru/chasy-k...4900906481.html

by the way ;) Looks like a 2ChZ/ChChZ balance in fact

Pumba - 2015-01-03, 11:31

Dear friends, I have learnt a lot lately about this beautiful old soviet watch.
Thanks a lot for that.
I have done following.
Sent email on the address SPAM gave me (http://aukro.ua/chasy-karmannye-kirovskie-sssr-chchz-zchz-kirovka-i4927908405.html) and also on address which
pmwas gave me (http://molotok.ru/chasy-kirovskie-balans-i4900906481.html)
I hope that same of these sellers will feedme back and deliver me parts I need.
We will be in touch pifko

[ Dodano: 2015-01-15, 12:50 ]
Friends,
I inform you that I bought the watche in Ukraina. These are the photos P10
P11.
This morning I made the payment and now I m waiting for the watche watch:)
Now I have dilemma, take complete mechanisam and put it in my case, or take only balance and put in my mechanisam, my watchmaiker will do has I wish, what do you think.
More photos when I get the watch pifko

[ Dodano: 2015-03-14, 10:04 ]
Dear friends, unfortunatelly I don't have positive news about my watch.
The watch which I bought in Ukraine is out of order, it works a bit then it stops.
I thought my watchmaker could repair it.
My idea was to make to make one watch out of two watches.
After meny trials my watchmayker (is an excellent old craftman) told me that balance staff is now not the biggest problem, but the main problem is the whells are worned a out.
Evrithing was tried to make one functional watch but there was no result.
The watch works properly a few hours then it stops.
I'm wery sorry but my watchmaker told me that he would contine again, but I'm not optimistic,(after two months waiting), at the moment I dont have I new photo, but if I get I positive feedback I will share it with you:D

[ Dodano: 2015-03-14, 10:04 ]
Dear friends, unfortunatelly I don't have positive news about my watch.
The watch which I bought in Ukraine is out of order, it works a bit then it stops.
I thought my watchmaker could repair it.
My idea was to make to make one watch out of two watches.
After meny trials my watchmayker (is an excellent old craftman) told me that balance staff is now not the biggest problem, but the main problem is the whells are worned a out.
Evrithing was tried to make one functional watch but there was no result.
The watch works properly a few hours then it stops.
I'm wery sorry but my watchmaker told me that he would contine again, but I'm not optimistic,(after two months waiting), at the moment I dont have I new photo, but if I get I positive feedback I will share it with you:D


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